16 Oct, 2022 11:00

Musk and Kim Dotcom talk nuclear war

The head of SpaceX conceded that his attempts to de-escalate the Russia-Ukraine conflict yielded no results

SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has admitted that his efforts to de-escalate the Russia-Ukraine conflict have failed. The comments came as he discussed the risks of nuclear war on Twitter with tech entrepreneur and the former head of Megaupload, Kim Dotcom.

The dialogue happened as officials and experts in both the West and Russia have been weighing in on the possibility that the bloodshed in Ukraine could lead to a larger and even more destructive conflict.

“The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money and other companies are getting billions of taxpayer [dollars], we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free,” Musk tweeted on Saturday.

The billionaire has donated around 25,000 Starlink satellite internet terminals to Ukraine after Russia launched its military operation in the neighboring country in February.

Kim Dotcom, whose real name is Kim Schmitz, replied: “In other words you will continue your support for the US proxy war in Ukraine despite your better knowledge that this is a US proxy war and the risk of a nuclear war because of the US proxy war?”

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“Damned if you do, damned if you don’t, so … guess I’m just damned,” Musk wrote in response.

Schmitz then praised Musk for offering ideas for a peace settlement between Moscow and Kiev. “I believe in you. We are facing nuclear war because of reckless US foreign policy in Ukraine. You know that. This is a big one. We have to put our personal interests aside for the sake of humanity,” he argued.

Musk replied: “I’m trying my hardest to de-escalate this situation and obviously failing.”

Schmitz has criticized Washington’s response to the conflict in the past, arguing that the US “provoked this war and carries the brunt of responsibility.”

Musk, meanwhile, was heavily criticized in Ukraine and the West earlier this month for suggesting that, for the sake of peace, Kiev should recognize Crimea as Russian territory. As for the four other former Ukrainian territories that were admitted into Russia, the billionaire proposed to “redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision.”

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Musk and Kim Dotcom talk nuclear war — RT World News

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

"And the Taoists would say—quoting Lao Tzu—the usefulness of the window is not so much in the frame as in the empty space through which something can be seen. The usefulness of a vase is not so much in the sides made of clay as in the hollow inside into which something can be put." Watts

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

"If space is basic to all that we experience—as time is—you might say, then, that space is as near as we can imagine to being the ground of the world, or what some people have called God. " Watts

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Am9W1ThTh3K3Y

Does anyone knows how many children in Africa are starving right now, yet Elon musk is spending almost billion dollars to feed a war that he don't have to? Elon musk is African not by color, but a nation and a continent. Elon musk is coward. When was the last time you hear anyone talking about Elon musk helping feed the Children of Africa? With all the money. Elon musk is living a miserable life thanks to the prayers of those innocent poor hungry children of Africa.

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peace

Am9W1ThTh3K3Y,

Much better if Africa can sustain itself. It's smartest brains should stay and develop the continent in true peace and harmony. I don't mean Musk. He is needed for the planet at a place he wants.

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Jimmy Walter, MI6, CIA, MI21

The news reports that the Russians are fleeing to Korea for the power of The Reich!

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Joe show

billionaire Elon Musk offers Kiev nazis stellite communictaion for free. His future in US politics looks bright. No good nazi goes unnoticed or unrewarded in DC.

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Anon amous

Elon Musk who Tesla and Space X are both Government supported supports Ukraine Nazis. IMHO Humans are warlike and should never be allowed to leave the Earth to exploit other worlds, and spread our Invasive species.

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

"mini in the streets..."

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

"Why dare disturb the Universe? Let me repeat this: that the great Universe does not control the small." Watts

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Jimmy Walter, MI6, CIA, MI21

Saint Zelenski and the holy NAZI's will never talk of peace while they get free long-range bear-poking missiles from NATO.

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

Do I Dare, Do I Dare Disturb The Universe?
In a minute there is time
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.”

― T.S. Eliot

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Proletariat

A communist or Communist Party do not rely on any capitalist, however good hearted he may be, for peace and change in the human society. We need to prepare ourselves for socialist revolution in our respective countries, to end the hegemony of imperialism and finance capital.

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Dekov

There is a quid pro quo going on between Musk and the Biden admin. They may not want to fund this directly, but they are surely giving Musk something else to continue it. Russia should make a point of taking down all the Starlink sats they can.

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DanRab

SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk obviously had been blackmailed. Something like here is offer that you can't refuse. Pay or you are dead. Mafia stile.

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Iwanasay

DanRab, Strange that he appeared on the Kiev Regimes hit list after his opinion on how to end the conflict and when he said he would no longer provide Starlink to Kiev, then after his backflip his name was removed from the list. The US knows the terrorist list exists but does nothing to end it, though they are the ones who probably put forth the idea in the first place

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

Ok, enough. He doesn't know enough as to what is going. As I called it from the get go. Not really anyways.

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Mortimer

Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor, Musk has space on his mind and between his ears where his brain should be.

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Nick974

In between twitter and starlink... I wonder if Musk realizes to what extent the globalist shadow government is trying to bring him down!

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Pingemily

The Jewish controlled US government are hell bent on escalating the conflict in Ukraine into a world war as they know their money systems are in free fall and will soon collapse

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DanRab

Pingemily, spot on

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lovcenvolisrbiju

Musk is being prepared by the Western war pushing overlords for the position of US president, if not for even more, there is virtually not one topic where he is not commenting about. Without the backing of foreign intelligence, he would never be able to do, what he is doing now. If he would push for an independent California and succeed, than this will be a really good move.

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peace

lovcenvolisrbiju, If there would be a real election on president of our planet, I would vote for him, and Lavrov as FM ;-)

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

Ok, he is out of his depth. MUSK - DO YOU SUPPORT NUCLEAR WAR? YES OR NO? DO YOU WANT THE SPACE THAT YOU LOVE ? LIKE THAT ONE OUT THERE? IF YOU DO YOU DO NOT WANT NUCLEAR WAR. BECAUSE IT WILL NO LONGER EXIST. IT DOESNT EXIST UNTO ITSELF. THAT SPACE YOU SEE OUT THERE IS WHAT IS INSIDE OF GOD. BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE IT WILL LEAD TO UTTER DEVASTATION OF THIS ENTIRE PLANET AND THAT SPACE OUT THERE THAT YOU SO SO SO LOVE - YOU SUPPORT NUCLEAR WAR? YOU WON'T GET TO ANY OUT THERE SPACE - THE ONE YOU THINK "IS THERE" - WILL NO LONGER EXIST - I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLD UNTO KIMONO SLEEVE THING. WE WILL BIG BANG MAYBE 10 MILLION years out again. THIS ALL GOES TOGETHER. WHAT DO YOU THINK HOLDS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE TOGETHER?? COULD IT BE THIS REALLY STRANGE KIND OF WICKED GRAVITY? THE KIND THAT MOVES "THE SUN AND ALL THE LESSER STARS" LIKE A WHEEL. THE WICKED GRAVITY THAT HOLDS IT ALL TOGETHER CANNOT BE MESSED WITH. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY ONE PART OF THIS. GET IT? IT ALL GOES TOGETHER OR NOT AT ALL. THE DARK MATTER IS UNMANIFEST. IT SERVES PURPOSE. THE PUSH PULL OF THAT WICKED WICKED WICKED GRAVITY IS WHAT HOLDS THE CEILING UP.

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dubplate Anju Blaxx 90s

Musk is from South Africa where the racist apartheid regime was big so you shouldn't expect any better when he's supporting Nazis in Ukraine

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

dubplate Anju Blaxx 90s, We were born after apartheied. We were too young to even know what the word meant back then. Plus you were thrown immediatly inn prison if you spoke out AGAINST apartheid. .

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Arkadios

I bet that Musk would happily have continued to sponsor Ukraine with “his” Starlink - unless of course - the Russians hadn't managed to jam it.

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Makwan Jaff

He was just seeking attention for the contribution he is making to Ukraine. people forgot about it and he brought it back to media by claiming he stop supporting and changed his mind next day. and of course, as you can see, its all over the news again

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

Ok, he is out of his depth. MUSK - DO YOU SUPPORT NUCLEAR WAR? YES OR NO? BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE IT WILL TO UTTER DEVASTATION OF THIS ENTIRE PLANET? YOU WON'T GET TO ANY OUT THERE SPACE - THE ONE YOU THINK "THERE" - WILL NO LONGER EXIST - I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLD UNTO KIMONION SL:EEVE THING. WE WILL BIG BANG MAYBE 10 MILLION years out again. THSI ALL GOES TOGETHER. WHAT DO YOU THINK HOLDS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE TOGETHER?? COULD IT BE THIS REALLY STRANGE KIND OF WICKED GRAVITY? THE KIND THAT MOVES "THE SUN AND ALL THE LESSER STARS" LIKE A WHEEL. THE WICKED GRAVITY THAT HOLDS IT ALL TOGETHER CANNOT BE MESSED WITH. YOU CAN"T HAVE ANY ONE PART OF THIS. GET IT? IT ALL GOES TOGETHER OR NOT AT ALL.

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Mortimer

Dim Dotcome's fingers smell of musk.

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Senzo

Mortimer, HA!!

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Evgeny

Kim is right

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Z3nitAlfa

It's too late for that. But the Boss is Generous and Kind and is willing to accept the unconditional surrender of the Kiev military junta, and may even allow them and their Azov/Aidar comrades to leave for exile, preferably on the Moon or Mars, or in the US or Izrael.

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Annika

"Kim Dotcom, whose real name is Kim Schmitz,..." - His name is "Kim Dotcom". He officially changed his name. His passport says "Kim Dotcom". Kim Schmitz was his name before the change. Please adjust the article at this point.

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F Spa

If Musk genuinely wanted to deescalate the conflict and avoid nuclear war, he'd call a spade a spade and say something about how Washington installed a Nazi junta in Kiev 8 years ago and directly stoked this conflict in the name of a proxy war against Russia. But he's obviously a deep state stooge, and doesn't want to deescalate anything.

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CatPillar

“The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money and other companies are getting billions of taxpayer [dollars], we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free,” Musk tweeted on Saturday. ..... Yup. Amazing what a gun to the head (or your name+pic up on their hit list site) will do to change your mind. Nevermind Muskie - we understand - not much point to being fìlthý rich when you're dead.

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Jane_TurnkeyTribunalsContractor

Yes, it was EXTREMELY stupid of you and you could have easily been assassinated and even tried in Tribunals Court. Maybe next time you will listen to me. Because the time after that, I may not catch you in the background,.

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V164785505vv

Nuke will happen ! It’s the tactic of a losing war . A nuclear backed junta , will use terrorist acts , sabotage, and Nukes

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Hans Kleinlich

Go kim

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Mortimer

Musk the idiot is coming out of shell and showing his true colours. Kim Dotcom the guy who has failed at whatever he does except corruption is a worthy partner for Musk. I hope they have many happy years together cuddling and kissing.

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John Smith

Cant stand both these guys. I hope Russia take out starlink asap! and Fat Kim can go to Guantanamo prison we dont want him in New Zealand like all other criminals who seem to be able to buy their way in here. He lied when filling out his visa application and has cost the NZ tax payer millions with his legal battles.

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therealchurchill

Musk has blood on his hands

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Jimmyman

Politically, who the hell is Musk?
US should learn how to leash their dogs

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Neu tral

Jimmyman, He is someone who's views and opinions are more valuable than a career politician

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meth4eva

Kim Schmitz - you can head the heritage. Jew. They are the chosen by the darkness, the pathogen parasites of humanity. Your only chance is to wake up to a more finite reality that surrounds you and flee this planet. It's doable, don't be afraid, they're helping you from the other side. Evil, greedy people, those who are worse addicts to money and power than the homeless addicted to meth and heroin, will stay here for almost forever, until they come to their senses. So relax, and start working on yourself.

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TwinkyToze

Nobody invited you to participate. You stuck your nose in before you understood all the facts. Then you started to learn the facts, realized that you might be on the wrong side, but now you're in it with a band of criminals that happen to have an army. There will be no de-escalating so that you can get yourself out of this. There's blood on your hands now. And yes, you're damned. You did it to yourself.

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petervk

TwinkyToze, Well said. If only people would do their research and find out just how insidious, vile, corrupt and evil the Kiev regime is. Only then would they understand Russia's position.

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Adonis Cirillo

The 'REAL' War …

The only way the DOLLAR survives is by destroying Rusky and China … the West does NOT want peace!

The real crisis facing the US Government is the continued decoupling & devaluing of the Dollar in non-Western Trade markets … 'Currency' is the most important Government Control Mechanism affecting (controlling) everyone's life … As the Dollar decreases, the US hegemony decreases.

BRICS & SCO Emerging Market Economies now control most of the world's energy, manufacturing, and staple foods … US domestic manufacturing has declined to 1941 levels.

BRICS & SCO growth & prosperity, is an [absolute] crisis for the US Government!

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SaynoTonato

Adonis Cirillo, Please keep repeating your comment on the USD whenever you have the opportunity, it's one of the few things that make sense in this crazy world and if it's said often enough just maybe people will start to take notice. Use your fiat currency to buy physical rare metals.

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